Podcast: Drilling down to the real issues behind workplace safety

Avetta's Scott DeBo explores the limitations of compliance-driven safety programs, the rise of serious injury and fatality (SIF) prevention strategies, and how a systems-based approach can help organizations identify, assess, and mitigate high-consequence risks before incidents occur.

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In this episode of EHS ONTAP, host Jake Umar interviews Scott DeBow, Director of Health, Safety and Environmental at Avetta, regarding the evolving landscape of workplace safety.

Scott DeBow discusses the limitations of traditional compliance-based frameworks and advocates for a systems-based approach using the Plan-Do-Check-Act (PDCA) model to manage the complexities of a modern, contractor-heavy workforce. The conversation highlights the critical shift from tracking lagging indicators like injury frequency to focusing on severity-based metrics and Serious Injury and Fatality (SIF) prevention.

Scott DeBow also introduces Avetta's 2026 Insights and Impact Report, which provides data-driven evidence that organizations prioritizing risk assessment and subcontractor management achieve significantly better safety outcomes.

The discussion concludes with advice for safety leaders on managing tensions between procurement and safety functions and supporting smaller employers in their safety maturity journeys.

Speakers

Scott DeBow
Director - Health, Safety, and Environment - @Avetta
Jay Kumar
Editor in chief, EHS Leaders
Contractor Management
Risk Management
Supply Chain Risk
Worker Management
Workforce Management

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